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Season 3 Match format.

Post by Muddade on Fri 30 Dec 2011, 21:38

Yer so 3v3 or 4v4.

Then what map at a later stage.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Mick on Fri 30 Dec 2011, 21:51

4V4!!!
More team based! More exciting! All the other forums do it!

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Shockboy on Fri 30 Dec 2011, 21:59

^^^^ this

its like if the uk decided playing 7's instead of 11's for our pro football just now

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Muddade on Fri 30 Dec 2011, 22:01

As you probably know I'd prefer 4v4's and here are some of my reasons:
  • More team based.
  • Faster, more sharper passing needed.
  • More people involved.
  • Faster paced games.


Only problems I can see are hosts having to be much better but we should be fine with that and not having enough active members as I would say squad limit be increased to 6 for 4v4 at least.

3/4 people means everyone gets enough playing time where as 3/5 not as much.
4/6 still gives people enough playing time as well with more spots to be filled.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Guest on Fri 30 Dec 2011, 22:03

Poland play 3v3?

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Muddade on Fri 30 Dec 2011, 22:04

Donny wrote:Poland play 3v3?

Poland has shed loads of communities and quite a lot of communities do 3v3 and adjacent 4v4 leagues which teams can choose which one or both to compete in.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Cheese on Fri 30 Dec 2011, 22:28

4v4!

Faster,
More players in the league,
Alot more fun(imo) 3v3 can be such a drag sometimes,
Seems to be the most popular competitive format,
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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by CircleBoy on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 02:23

4v4. Everything I'd say has been said

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Aidan on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 02:39

hmmmmmmm if its a 4v4 league, can we make the cup 3v3 then ?

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Ghost on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 13:04

So long as we stick to regular big I don't mind playing 4v4. I HATE big easy with a passion.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by CircleBoy on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 14:33

Could the people voting 3v3 actualy get involved here? So far we've got a whole topic full of people saying 4v4 and why...but its only leading by 2.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by jonnyynnoj on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 15:27

4v4, for the reasons mad and cheese listed.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Muddade on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 15:58

I like the idea of having a 3v3 cup but that's for another vote then.

Squad limits at 6 is good for 4v4 right?

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Ghost on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 16:38

Yeah, make it 5 mandatory, 6 optional.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by -rising.star- on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 17:25

I think 3v3 is way better than 4v4 for the following Reasons

>Less Players than 4v4,Meaning more Responsibility on each Player.
>More space to run with the ball.
>You can play different styles, In 4v4,you have to kind of play the Passing game, But in 3v3,you can choose if you want to Pass alot or Have a slower gameplay!

Thanks for opening the poll for rest,admins

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by jonnyynnoj on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 17:30

-rising.st4r- wrote:>More space to run with the ball.

But can't you see that's a bad thing? The more you have to run with the ball, the easier it is for people to catch you.

In 3s you have two options on the ball pretty much, 1. try to play the cross-field pass 2. go down the line. In 4s, you have the extra player in the middle of the pitch which opens up more possibilities.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Muddade on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 17:32

-rising.st4r- wrote:I think 3v3 is way better than 4v4 for the following Reasons

>Less Players than 4v4,Meaning more Responsibility on each Player.
>More space to run with the ball.
>You can play different styles, In 4v4,you have to kind of play the Passing game, But in 3v3,you can choose if you want to Pass alot or Have a slower gameplay!

Thanks for opening the poll for rest,admins

Firstly, why would you not play the passing game..this is a team game, you do know right?
The ball moves faster than you and you can get space on 4v4 if you position correctly, you should look to pass anyway.
More responsibility, the problem being that you can't always be aggressive because if you are then when you make a mistake it would normally lead to conceding a goal.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Lekumberri on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 18:33

I voted 3v3.

Because:

- I think 4v4 is very crowded, in my case I don't know what to do, there's not enough space to play. More rebounds.

- More lag usually (8 people, subs and maybe 1 or 2 referees).

- I don't think more people can play, at least not only in this way. We can do the same incresing the league until 10 teams, like in Spanish Haxball Liga for example, and with more divisions if necesary.

Also thank you for open the poll.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Zizou on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 20:16

Voted 3v3 but honestly does not matter to me.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by OvoXo on Sat 31 Dec 2011, 21:29

I voted to balance the polls. xD. Trolololol.
But seriously, I don't mind.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Dirohba on Sun 01 Jan 2012, 01:53

3v3 I voted for the following reasons:

-In my league we play in France in 4v4 Gk-Def - Mil - Attack.

And we have no 4 or 5 but 10 players so if you want to play 4v4 augmanter It will take the place of actual or otherwise it will be a lot of resumes from match to see drop.

This is the opinion of a player who played two seasons in 4v4 and also a Captain.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Sukh on Sun 01 Jan 2012, 19:41

I thought of 3 v 3
But now i look at it i voted 4 v 4
More players playing
More Passing
I don't need to play Defence Very Happy
Yeah So 4 v4.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by deerhaunter99 on Sun 01 Jan 2012, 22:59

I will vote 4v4 if we don't have BigEasy and we have a slightly bigger pitch than Big..Otherwise I'll put my vote on 3v3. Maybe not length wise, but more width wise.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Blazing on Mon 02 Jan 2012, 14:30

I voted for 3v3 because:

- There will be way too many goals conceded, due to Big Easy.
- It will be way too crowded.
- If we play a custom stadium, then it will lag a lot more than the default stadiums.
- Basro stated that 3v3 matches are the best to play.
- There isn't anything wrong with the current 3v3 matches. Don't fix it if it's not broken.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by opc on Mon 02 Jan 2012, 18:01

Blazing wrote:
- Basro stated that 3v3 matches are the best to play.
This is a silly argument. Citing someone else's opinion as a reason for your own opinion makes you a sheep and nothing more. Well, maybe an idiot. A sheep and an idiot.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by NJ on Mon 02 Jan 2012, 19:38

Blazing wrote:I voted for 3v3 because:

- There will be way too many goals conceded, due to Big Easy.
- It will be way too crowded.
- If we play a custom stadium, then it will lag a lot more than the default stadiums.
- Basro stated that 3v3 matches are the best to play.
- There isn't anything wrong with the current 3v3 matches. Don't fix it if it's not broken.

Games end 1-0 and 2-1 regularly in /sp/hb, wouldn't worry about too much scoring. The idea that it will be crowded is a personal opinion. Basro's opinion is also just an opinion. There is nothing wrong with 3v3, no argument out of me, but 4v4 allows more people to play, so while it may not be broken, perhaps it could be improved.
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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by mc smiley on Tue 03 Jan 2012, 00:02

I do not want to play on a custom pitch whether it's 3vs3 or 4vs4, I always get de-syncrinized and it's unfair.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by GOKU on Tue 03 Jan 2012, 13:42

Because the league so far is 3v3 and is going well we should stick with it.
However we could do a 4v4 cup? Because it would be like a trial and if it goes well then we could try 4v4 league the season after?

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Vargo on Tue 03 Jan 2012, 17:12

4vs4 cup sounds good.

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Post by Guest on Wed 04 Jan 2012, 16:05

I agree with GOKU stick with 3v3 for league and do a 4v4 cup!!!
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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by mc smiley on Wed 04 Jan 2012, 16:24

QEZO wrote:I agree with GOKU stick with 3v3 for league and do a 4v4 cup!!!
sounds good

You can't play haxball in jail QEZO. Mad

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Ghost on Wed 04 Jan 2012, 17:38

I changed my vote from 4v4 to 3v3.

Based on the 4v4 games we've been playing recently, the level of ability most of us have is shockingly bad and most games seem to feel like pub games.

I'd say stick to a 3v3 league but trial 4v4 in the cup next season, which now that we have rosters of 5 would be easier to do.
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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by George Best on Thu 05 Jan 2012, 04:09

I voted 3v3 because I basically agree with GOKU - 3v3 is working fine, and implementing a 4v4 cup for next season would a) allow some experimentation with what pitch works best, and b) operate as a trial to see what everyone thinks of it. If it's popular, we can have this debate again for Season 4, only people will have had a taste of competitive 4v4 haxball and therefore be better equipped to judge its merits and shortcomings.
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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Usopp on Thu 05 Jan 2012, 10:09

I voted 3v3 because its more fun
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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by sausage on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 13:29

3v3 is defo more fun in my opinion. I don't enjoy playing 4v4 at all really.
I'm still learning my pos in 3v3 so that could be a part of why I hate 4v4, I feel lost in 4v4 games they just seem far too messy.

3v3 ftw.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Barry on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 14:09

Necrobump, eh Grem.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Guest on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 21:13

I think season 4 we may need to go to 4v4 big. With the Champions League starting next week were gonna be at a disadvantage from not having as large squads and not as much experience at 4v4 competitively. Having a 5 man squad in a competition that's 4v4 and where there's a rule that anything less than 4 you'll lose automatically is quite bad.

Allow captains to keep 3 other players and put the squads up to 7 for 4v4 IMO.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by socrates on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 21:20

But i think most of us here prefer playing 3v3. We shouldn't change to 4s just so we have a better chance of winning in Europe. The aim of this league is to have fun right?
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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Edgar Davids on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 21:23

4v4 on big with the 3 man defence rule can be fantastic, but this league just doesn't really know how to play it. Playing it with the Germans, I feel like a fish out of water as most of the time I'm clueless as to what to do. If we just straight up change to 4v4 it wouldn't work, I think we'd need to ease it in and try and practice with German leagues etc to get used to the format.

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Re: Season 3 Match format.

Post by Muddade on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 21:27

Summer 4v4 only tourneys, s4 4v4, sorted.

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Post by Guest on Fri 16 Mar 2012, 21:30

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