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Rotating defence, your thoughts.

Post by CircleBoy on Thu 01 Sep 2011, 00:34

I was playing some 3 on 3 earlier in the pubs and during the game I and another player (rebecca I think?) kept trading positions during play. The baisic idea is that if I was defending/goalkeeping but the ball wound up in a position where I was best placed to take it on I would do so and she would drop back to cover. We'd stay like that until the situation called for her to come foward and then I would resume my position. I know this seems like an obvious move but most teams have a dedicated defender and normaly whenever I see them take it on they immediately drop back when they get rid of the ball...which of course reduces pressure on the other team. Or the person who dropped back starts getting flat and trying to creep foward which results in a counter attack.

Just wondering what your thoughts were on this, it seems fairly usefull since any decent haxballer, even those who are primarily strikers are decent in defence.
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Post by socrates on Thu 01 Sep 2011, 15:54

Ideally i think this is the best strategy but it depends on who your playing with. I feel like i would start to leak goals if i didnt have a dedicated defender behind me, but thats just because i suck at defending.
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Post by CircleBoy on Thu 01 Sep 2011, 17:27

Thats ok...I suck at defending and I'm meant to be a dedicated defender
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Post by any1 on Thu 01 Sep 2011, 17:59

total football, cruffy's dream! It's good so long as everyone is good at all positions, but you could end up wasting someone like ace's skills in defence when he could be busy scoring loads of goals, or the_spy (not part of our clan) upfront when he could be busy saving loads of goals. Smile
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Post by CircleBoy on Thu 01 Sep 2011, 18:51

Yeah its player specific I suppose. But if both players are compitent that extra second you gain can create problems for the defence.
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Post by any1 on Thu 01 Sep 2011, 19:16

CircleBoy wrote: But if both players are compitent that extra second you gain can create problems for the defence.

Absolutely true. People like alec baldwin, Gary, etc. would be beasts at that. Razz
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Post by Gary on Thu 01 Sep 2011, 23:50

I've always found it the best way to play and quite a few people in the team do it automatically. When I first started defending I was always deflecting the ball back towards our goal so it worked well having someone there to cover you. I've noticed Jonny and Chef will always provide cover if you've gone forward and the freedom is great sometimes. Very Happy - Aslong as you put yourself in their shoes and think about where you'd pass and take up that position, then a counter attack is on the cards.

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Post by deerhaunter99 on Sat 03 Sep 2011, 13:02

Yeah believe it or not I do switch from mid to defence if only to cover for a few seconds, I find it's just so good that their's always a player in defence at any one time.
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Post by Starfox on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 16:02

Sorry but this is the ONLY way to play. Although I'm not very good myself, you don't need to be to be able to see that you can only reach a certain level without doing this.

People say, "I dont go back because i'm not good at defence"...right well, i'll let you in on a secret, it's better to have ANY defender than none. If the one solid defender gets "done".

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Post by Ghost on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 16:19

I've always played like this. I'm not what you'd call a proficient finisher of chances, but I do like breaking forwards when possible to put the defence under pressure, so it's nice knowing that if you do go forward you've got someone covering you. In the same vein, if one of my team mates are pushing forwards I've always dropped back to cover any deflections coming back at me.

It works a lot better in 4v4(2 def, 2 for) than it does in 3v3 where you generally only have one dedicated defender.
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Post by Starfox on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 16:35

This is the problem with 3v3, people think " I am not the 1 dedicated defender, therefore I wont go back" ...Which an awful attitude.

What happens if the 1 defender has a great chance to go foward, unfortunately it results in a counter this time....I'd like to think someone has the sense to go back.

In public games I find this hardly ever happens. "it wasnt my role"....oh right, so you dont like winning.

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Post by Alec Baldwin on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 18:02

S.Mouse! wrote:This is the problem with 3v3, people think " I am not the 1 dedicated defender, therefore I wont go back" ...Which an awful attitude.

What happens if the 1 defender has a great chance to go foward, unfortunately it results in a counter this time....I'd like to think someone has the sense to go back.

In public games I find this hardly ever happens. "it wasnt my role"....oh right, so you dont like winning.



This.

As a defender, sometimes there are opportunities to press the opposition, possibly winning the ball back and creating a great chance for the team. If you do take the chance the ball occasionally rebounds funny, and with nobody back covering you, they score, and guess who gets the blame(!)

That's why I like playing with people like Jonny, Chef and Donny (the Park Ji-Sung of Haxball) in particular, because they're not selfish idiots.
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Post by Guest on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 19:24

Park Ji-Sung? FML.

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Post by Alec Baldwin on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 19:46

You totally are. Not in a ball-chasing, dog-eating way, though.
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Post by jonnyynnoj on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 20:33

Basically, you look like him.
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Post by Guest on Thu 08 Sep 2011, 20:40

Racist pricks.

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