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Re: Champions League

Post by Stevo on Sun 18 Mar 2012, 13:39

i will take that reserve league comment as offensive

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Post by Girgensons on Sun 18 Mar 2012, 14:16

>Well, that's just unfortunate, but as you say, there are plenty of players that could replace him if you feel the need to.
Players that don't know anything about our tactics and who are not used to the style each of us play. No chemistry.

>Haxball =/= Football, there is a vast difference between the skill levels needed for haxball and football.
I could've used ice hockey or foosball in my analogy, it's not about equating football with haxball, but about underlining the fact that players have certain strengths and weaknesses, which make them more suited to a specific position on the field, just like in any other team sport.


Well, personally I'd rather see players playing regularly in a reserves league, and showing off their abilities, rather than playing very occasionally.
Again, false dichotomy. *facepalm* It's not a choice between a reserve league and players sitting on the bench in Div 1/2.

"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>

Players are not slaves, they can quit a team and join the reserves if they want to. Your argument is invalid.

If the players and the captain want to play in such a team, why shouldn't they? Because you don't like it?

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Re: Champions League

Post by opc on Sun 18 Mar 2012, 14:24

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"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>
Surely you must be aware how silly this statement is?

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Sun 18 Mar 2012, 14:41

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"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>
Surely you must be aware how silly this statement is?
Of course. Cam made things up (6th player never getting to play; 6th player forever stuck in a team that doesn't play him; no reserve league once the roster limit is marginally increased) and used that to justify his position. I did the same to show how ludicrous that is, that's all.

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Re: Champions League

Post by opc on Sun 18 Mar 2012, 14:51

Girgensons wrote:
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"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>
Surely you must be aware how silly this statement is?
Of course. Cam made things up (6th player never getting to play; 6th player forever stuck in a team that doesn't play him; no reserve league once the roster limit is marginally increased) and used that to justify his position. I did the same to show how ludicrous that is, that's all.
But they're not comparable. One is very likely to happen in most teams, one isn't. Can you guess which is which?

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Sun 18 Mar 2012, 15:02

opc wrote:
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opc wrote:
Girgensons wrote:
"I'd rather see players regularly playing in Div 1, rather than playing very occasionally in the reserve league." What now? :>
Surely you must be aware how silly this statement is?
Of course. Cam made things up (6th player never getting to play; 6th player forever stuck in a team that doesn't play him; no reserve league once the roster limit is marginally increased) and used that to justify his position. I did the same to show how ludicrous that is, that's all.
But they're not comparable. One is very likely to happen in most teams, one isn't. Can you guess which is which?
I think everyone's talking about their own team here, I was talking about mine. Every player rotates and gets equal playing time in NL and I surely don't want to keep anyone in my squad against their will. So in my case the statement I made makes a lot more sense. No idea how the things work in other teams. If other teams have slave-players, maybe that's the issue that we should focus on first.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Kun Aguero on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 02:27

BEST OF LUCK TO ALL THE UK TEAMS IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE TOMOROW

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 14:29

Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?

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Re: Champions League

Post by Taylor Swift on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 14:58

Girgensons wrote:Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?

That 'divison 2 team' would probably wipe the floor with yours. Don't put teams down just because they're division 2.

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Re: Champions League

Post by MoMo on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 15:01

This calls for an un-friendly friendly.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Ghost on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 15:13

Girgensons wrote:Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?

I have no idea what happened there. Prizzle posted the MasterChefs squad, crossed wires somewhere, who asked CUNT to take part?

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Re: Champions League

Post by Taylor Swift on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 15:17

Ghost wrote:
Girgensons wrote:Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?

I have no idea what happened there. Prizzle posted the MasterChefs squad, crossed wires somewhere, who asked CUNT to take part?

Jonny did.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Ghost on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 15:23

Ahh fair enough, Chefs must have been taking too long.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 16:59

Rachel wrote:
Girgensons wrote:Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?

That 'divison 2 team' would probably wipe the floor with yours. Don't put teams down just because they're division 2.
How am I putting them down?

This is incredibly unfair, that's all I was saying.

And, no, their chances wouldn't be very good against us in 4on4. We're most likely the most skilled and the most experiened squad here when it comes to 4vs4.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 17:05

Rachel wrote:
Ghost wrote:
Girgensons wrote:Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?

I have no idea what happened there. Prizzle posted the MasterChefs squad, crossed wires somewhere, who asked CUNT to take part?

Jonny did.
I hereby retract my apology for calling jonny a cunt. Not judging him though, a cunt is bound to help other CUNTs.

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Re: Champions League

Post by jonnyynnoj on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 17:30

Commenting on and insulting people over an issue you know absolutely nothing about. You really are an idiot. In addition to that, your attitude stinks and so the following explanation is aimed at everyone except you.

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Basically what Ghost said. Adarax hadn't posted his squad on the champions league site and the deadline had passed. We had to find a replacement literally straight away and cheese was the only captain available. CUNTs are top of division 2 and no disrespect to masterchefs, but with them currently on 0 points and struggling to field players for their games, CUNTs will probably provide better competition.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Mick on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 18:03

We're representing england also so NL wouldn't have illegibility to play

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Re: Champions League

Post by Nino on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 18:24

Girgensons wrote:
Rachel wrote:
Girgensons wrote:Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?

That 'divison 2 team' would probably wipe the floor with yours. Don't put teams down just because they're division 2.
How am I putting them down?

This is incredibly unfair, that's all I was saying.

And, no, their chances wouldn't be very good against us in 4on4. We're most likely the most skilled and the most experiened squad here when it comes to 4vs4.
Girg,
Whats your problem with a division2 team....
I think we've proven we do well against division 1 teams by beating acdp 5-1 yesterday and defeat Deja and Northern Lights in friendlys. (friendlys arent the smame as league matches but still).

And if I remember well It took you 16 minutes to score against the number 3 in division2 yesterday...

The fact that you play in division1 doesnt mean you are automaticly better then div2 teams.
The only reason that you even play division1 is that you could take over circleboys since you had 1 new captain+ 4 draft picks just like the rest of the new teams.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 18:34

X wrote:
Girgensons wrote:
Rachel wrote:
Girgensons wrote:Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?

That 'divison 2 team' would probably wipe the floor with yours. Don't put teams down just because they're division 2.
How am I putting them down?

This is incredibly unfair, that's all I was saying.

And, no, their chances wouldn't be very good against us in 4on4. We're most likely the most skilled and the most experiened squad here when it comes to 4vs4.
Girg,
Whats your problem with a division2 team....
I think we've proven we do well against division 1 teams by beating acdp 5-1 yesterday and defeat Deja and Northern Lights in friendlys. (friendlys arent the smame as league matches but still).

And if I remember well It took you 16 minutes to score against the number 3 in division2 yesterday...

The fact that you play in division1 doesnt mean you are automaticly better then div2 teams.
The only reason that you even play division1 is that you could take over circleboys since you had 1 new captain+ 4 draft picks just like the rest of the new teams.

Nothing against division2 Very Happy

Learn to read.

The only thing I'm protesting against is that nepotic little turds get to arbitrarily decide who represents FM in the Champions League and who doesn't.

The fact that you play in Division 2 doesn't mean that you're automatically better than top Division 1 teams, which is what jonny here has implied with his decision.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Ghost on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 18:37

Girgensons wrote:
Learn to read.

The only thing I'm protesting against is that nepotic little turds get to arbitrarily decide who represents FM in the Champions League and who doesn't.

The fact that you play in Division 2 doesn't mean that you're automatically better than top Division 1 teams, which is what jonny here has implied with his decision.


No, what Jonny said was that Cheese was the only captain available at the time and he couldn't risk waiting for other captains to randomly appear online. The Champions League had a deadline set that couldn't be broken for fear of having a team disallowed entirely.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Barry on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 18:38

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Re: Champions League

Post by jonnyynnoj on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 18:38

Girgensons wrote:The fact that you play in Division 2 doesn't mean that you're automatically better than top Division 1 teams, which is what jonny here has implied with his decision.
I'm beginning to wonder if you can even read let alone participate in a discussion without throwing insults around.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you missed it, so here it is again:
We had to find a replacement literally straight away and cheese was the only captain available.
If you're still struggling to read that, just say and I'll put it into a text-to-speach thing for you Wink

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 19:00

Absolute bullshit, the games start only tomorrow and the CL admins casually accepted the roster submitted by prizzle just a couple hours ago, thinking that Chefs might not have pulled out. It would not be a problem to send them the name of the 4th team this evening, please don't rationalize your bias.

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Re: Champions League

Post by opc on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 19:09

Girgensons wrote:Absolute bullshit, the games start only tomorrow and the CL admins casually accepted the roster submitted by prizzle just a couple hours ago, thinking that Chefs might not have pulled out. It would not be a problem to send them the name of the 4th team this evening, please don't rationalize your bias.
In what way is Jonny bias? What he's saying seems perfectly reasonable. Do you just get in a hissy fit about anything?

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Post by jonnyynnoj on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 19:10

Well firstly, games start tonight.

Secondly, the rules on the haxball CL website say that the deadline to submit squads was yesterday (Sunday) 22:00 CET. It is nothing to do with me if they are choosing to except squads after the deadline, take it up with them.

Lastly, Northern Lights aren't in the CL. If squads are still being accepted, masterchefs may get back in. If not, C U Next Thursday are in.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Aidan on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 19:41

jonnyynnoj wrote:Commenting on and insulting people over an issue you know absolutely nothing about. You really are an idiot. In addition to that, your attitude stinks and so the following explanation is aimed at everyone except you.

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Basically what Ghost said. Adarax hadn't posted his squad on the champions league site and the deadline had passed. We had to find a replacement literally straight away and cheese was the only captain available. CUNTs are top of division 2 and no disrespect to masterchefs, but with them currently on 0 points and struggling to field players for their games, CUNTs will probably provide better competition.


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i was here at the time, and my team is top of div 1 baffles me how we never got any offer.


Rach NL are second in div 1 tbf, some credit has to go to them for that you just cant say cunts would wipe the floor with them.

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Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 20:17

Mick wrote:We're representing england also so NL wouldn't have illegibility to play
Yup, with the way things have been going, I wouldn't be surprised if NL wouldn't be allowed to play in the CL next season even if we win both the league and the cup. :>

Instead of trying to fix things, I just got banned from the chat. Great strategy. Just ban everyone who dares to criticize anything here. It's super effective.

opc, I surely respect CUNTs more than your team, at least they have the guts to play there.

And, no, jonny, CUNTs/Chefs do not play this evening. And as for the alleged deadline, I along with several other captains was online at that point. So stop lying to my face.

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Post by Taylor Swift on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 20:18

Aidan wrote:
jonnyynnoj wrote:Commenting on and insulting people over an issue you know absolutely nothing about. You really are an idiot. In addition to that, your attitude stinks and so the following explanation is aimed at everyone except you.

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Basically what Ghost said. Adarax hadn't posted his squad on the champions league site and the deadline had passed. We had to find a replacement literally straight away and cheese was the only captain available. CUNTs are top of division 2 and no disrespect to masterchefs, but with them currently on 0 points and struggling to field players for their games, CUNTs will probably provide better competition.


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i was here at the time, and my team is top of div 1 baffles me how we never got any offer.


Rach NL are second in div 1 tbf, some credit has to go to them for that you just cant say cunts would wipe the floor with them.

If we're gonna quote league positions, Caths are joint 2nd and Aquo beat them (No bragging this is just because Aidan decided to bring it up). Also yeah, I was on at the time as well, as was Tanzim.

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Re: Champions League

Post by jonnyynnoj on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 20:32

Girgensons wrote:And, no, jonny, CUNTs/Chefs do not play this evening. And as for the alleged deadline, I along with several other captains was online at that point. So stop lying to my face.

I never said cunts/chefs play this evening. You worded it as though you were talking about the whole thing. Not my fault you're not clear enough.

I honestly don't know what your problem is. Your team have no more right than NWA, CUNTS, Aquopolis, Ajhax or whoever to be in the CL. Masterchefs were sort of a div2 representative having been there last season so is it not right that the team currently top of division 2 takes their place?

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Post by Aidan on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 20:39

Rachel wrote:
Aidan wrote:
jonnyynnoj wrote:Commenting on and insulting people over an issue you know absolutely nothing about. You really are an idiot. In addition to that, your attitude stinks and so the following explanation is aimed at everyone except you.

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Basically what Ghost said. Adarax hadn't posted his squad on the champions league site and the deadline had passed. We had to find a replacement literally straight away and cheese was the only captain available. CUNTs are top of division 2 and no disrespect to masterchefs, but with them currently on 0 points and struggling to field players for their games, CUNTs will probably provide better competition.


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i was here at the time, and my team is top of div 1 baffles me how we never got any offer.


Rach NL are second in div 1 tbf, some credit has to go to them for that you just cant say cunts would wipe the floor with them.

If we're gonna quote league positions, Caths are joint 2nd and Aquo beat them (No bragging this is just because Aidan decided to bring it up). Also yeah, I was on at the time as well, as was Tanzim.


no such thing as joint second rach.

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Re: Champions League

Post by OvoXo on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 20:50

Girgensons wrote:Why the fuck a division 2 team is completely randomly representing FM in the Champions League?

Who made that decision and how is that fair in respect to other teams?

This is the original post you made that caused this shit storm.

To address the first question it was last night on TS that a guy from Germany etc came in to our channel and asked Jonny for a new team if Masterchefs weren't playing. So then amongst the 10 other people that were there we all said CUNT's because they're a solid team and would represent England as well as FM, plus cheese being a long member in the community it was the right choice to make. It wasn't just Jonny's idea he asked people that were online and it was a MUTUAL AGREEMENT

Its not about fairness, not every team participates its the bloody CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. So with this guy on TS saying jonny I need a team every 2 minutes while jonny is looking for one, we seen cheese and asked and he accepted. Now please will you stop carrying on this pointless debate. I addressed your questions with FACTS. If you're not satisfied, then bitch that's yo problem.


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Post by Taylor Swift on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 20:57

Aidan wrote:
Rachel wrote:
Aidan wrote:
jonnyynnoj wrote:Commenting on and insulting people over an issue you know absolutely nothing about. You really are an idiot. In addition to that, your attitude stinks and so the following explanation is aimed at everyone except you.

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Basically what Ghost said. Adarax hadn't posted his squad on the champions league site and the deadline had passed. We had to find a replacement literally straight away and cheese was the only captain available. CUNTs are top of division 2 and no disrespect to masterchefs, but with them currently on 0 points and struggling to field players for their games, CUNTs will probably provide better competition.


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Rach NL are second in div 1 tbf, some credit has to go to them for that you just cant say cunts would wipe the floor with them.

If we're gonna quote league positions, Caths are joint 2nd and Aquo beat them (No bragging this is just because Aidan decided to bring it up). Also yeah, I was on at the time as well, as was Tanzim.


no such thing as joint second rach.

Level on points mate.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Aidan on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 21:05

So, aye theres no such thing as joint second.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 21:12

OvoXo wrote:To address the first question it was last night on TS that a guy from Germany etc came in to our channel and asked Jonny for a new team if Masterchefs weren't playing. So then amongst the 10 other people that were there we all said CUNT's because they're a solid team and would represent England as well as FM
So the decision wasn't arbitrary, it was based on racism. Great stuff.

plus cheese being a long member in the community it was the right choice to make.
Nepotism - just adds more to the injury.

It wasn't just Jonny's idea he asked people that were online and it was a MUTUAL AGREEMENT ...
...among a couple of people that know each other personally and use a specific channel for communication that isn't used by the majority of FM players/captains.

Its not about fairness, not every team participates its the bloody CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.
If Arsenal would finish top 2 in the Premier League and they wouldn't be allowed to enter the CL on the basis that not enough of their players are English and their manager doesn't turn up to a specific pub often enough to chit chat about unrelated BS, would that be fair?

Precisely because this is the CL we're talking about, the criteria for selecting the teams should be clearly defined AND FAIR. The way CUNT was picked is simply disgusting, like it or not, ban me from the chat or not.

with this guy on TS saying jonny I need a team every 2 minutes while jonny is looking for one
Too fucking bad he forgot to log on this site and look at the list of people being online - that would've been too hard.

we seen cheese and asked and he accepted.
OH, OK SO EVERYTHINGS FAIR. SORRY FOR TROUBLING YOU.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Barry on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 21:18

Based on racism of what!?

CUNTs have 2 dutch players ffs. He's on about representing the English league (as you would represent the premiership in football) with a strong team. He didn't mention 'English players'.

You have to be trolling. Nobody is this fucking dense.

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Re: Champions League

Post by jonnyynnoj on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 21:20

Girgensons wrote:So the decision wasn't arbitrary, it was based on racism. Great stuff.
It you want to believe that, go ahead.

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Its not about fairness, not every team participates its the bloody CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.
If Arsenal would finish top 2 in the Premier League and they wouldn't be allowed to enter the CL on the basis that not enough of their players are English and their manager doesn't turn up to a specific pub often enough to chit chat about unrelated BS, would that be fair?

Precisely because this is the CL we're talking about, the criteria for selecting the teams should be clearly defined AND FAIR. The way CUNT was picked is simply disgusting, like it or not, ban me from the chat or not.
You haven't finished 2nd in the league. Do you not understand that you have no more right than any other team to be in the CL? The criteria was clearly defined and fair, top 3 teams at the end of the season and the cup winners. Masterchefs couldn't play, they were in div2, the current top div2 gets their place.

There is nothing to discuss (read: for you to complain about).

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Re: Champions League

Post by OvoXo on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 21:28

We're officially dealing with someone who has 47 chromosomes. #DOWNYALERT. Where's Gordon at?

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Re: Champions League

Post by Taylor Swift on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 21:31



lets just chill out and listen to some feint x

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Re: Champions League

Post by Aidan on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 21:33

Its a fecking Uk and Ireland league not an English league ffs

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Re: Champions League

Post by Aidan on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 21:39

I agree with girgs about discrimination on the site.

> Scottish and dont get in.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Guest on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 21:42

Aidan wrote:I agree with girgs about discrimination on the site.

> Scottish and dont get in.

Two of your players are already playing in it.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 22:04

The criteria was clearly defined and fair, top 3 teams at the end of the season and the cup winners. Masterchefs couldn't play, they were in div2, the current top div2 gets their place.
The Masterchefs were included, because they won the cup.

Did CUNTs come second in the cup? No, they did not.

You must be shitting me.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 22:06

Brary wrote:He's on about representing the English league (as you would represent the premiership in football) with a strong team.
"and would represent England as well as FM"

FM is the premiership. England is a country.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Aidan on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 22:09

Donny wrote:
Aidan wrote:I agree with girgs about discrimination on the site.

> Scottish and dont get in.

Two of your players are already playing in it.

No they arent.


Only kaos is and he asked me if we were playing in it last night with no offer i said no so he went to another team

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Re: Champions League

Post by Taylor Swift on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 23:04

Aidan wrote:
Donny wrote:
Aidan wrote:I agree with girgs about discrimination on the site.

> Scottish and dont get in.

Two of your players are already playing in it.

No they arent.


Only kaos is and he asked me if we were playing in it last night with no offer i said no so he went to another team

If this is true then it's a disgrace letting 365 and CUNTS play.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Mick on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 23:39

The admins at the CL site needed a nother squad posted in 10 mins, and you girg were nowhere to be seen with cheese being the only suitable captain. I'd say they have a decent chance of getting far

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 23:51

I was on the site. Didn't receive a single message here. Neither did other captains.

Once again, nothing against CUNT, but the selection process was absolutely unfair.

No idea why have I been banned again from the chat for saying this, this is common sense and you have to be really thick to not understand that other teams might be upset about how this whole thing was carried out.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Girgensons on Mon 19 Mar 2012, 23:54

It's even more depressing to see that the other British teams are getting their arses handed to them in the first games. It just doesn't help the reputation of British haxball.

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Re: Champions League

Post by Aidan on Tue 20 Mar 2012, 00:05

its fine scotland won the nations cup

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Re: Champions League

Post by Nino on Tue 20 Mar 2012, 22:42

Maddude wrote:Fuck slackers, might as well give up now.
Never give up, if you try hard enough theres always a chance it will get 2-2. Embarassed

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